University of MinnesotaMinneapolis in February! What was I thinking? Internet2 and NANOG had been trying to arrange a joint meeting but failed. This resulted in two winter technical meetings separated by a week in cold places. NANOG won on the warmth scale as it was a balmy -15C in Toronto whereas Minneapolis managed to deliver -25C. A six block walk to dinner was more than enough for Alan Whinery, Paul Love and myself. No table ready? Oh that's OK we'll wait for one in the warmth rather than roam the streets looking for other options.